A great observation of our response to torture on CSPAN

[nolawitch58]

A woman called in (and I'll have to paraphrase) saying that if we DON'T hold those who advocated the torture responsible and make THEM own it, then WE as collective Americans will have to own that WE condoned the torture. That's what those cockstain Republicans aren't getting. For a party that allegedly promotes responsibility, they're more profligate than a shipful of sailors on shore leave after a long tour at sea. Worse, they're not willing to get a shot for the clap they contracted in the brothel in Thailand, nor are they willing to go to the brig for the property damage from the fight they caused in the bar. Rotten bastards.

With that said, I don't think we need to rush an investigation. When you go off half-cocked, you run the risk of misfiring, and we can't afford to have any of the guilty parties fall through the cracks. Let the administration proceed cautiously and deliberately. Impetuous action is what led us to an unjust war, the aforementioned torture, the loss of civil rights and most of the more heinous abuses of the years of conservative blight. Let things take their course and no one will be able to say that it was a lynching. If rash action was unattractive and unseemly when they did it, it's no better when we do it.

Make no mistake: we have to bring them to justice. Let's be better than them or we become them as they became the terrorists.

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[nolawitch.livejournal.com]

The thing is we don't want any of their rotten cabal to scurry under the appliances like roaches. Remember how juvenile the media is now. There would be no other coverage on TV--at least until the next pretty white girl disappeared. We can't let all the other pots on the stove boil over unattended because some dumb shits are watching the turkeys in the oven.

I hate them as much as you do. I hate them doubly for being so vile that they inspired hatred in me. I hate them for slithering under the low bar and surpassing the hatred I had for Nixon. They need to be imprisoned and, as my husband says, only let out to change bedpans at the nearest VA medical facility. Our hatred of them is rational, based on their craven and repulsive actions, whereas their hatred for minorities, women, gays and liberals is not. We cannot prevail against them by acting as base and loathesome as they do.

[blackbyrd2.livejournal.com]

Didja see where Connie Rice ok'd it in a memo, contradicting her written testimony?

I wouldn't get my hopes too high though. Nobody's going to swing for this. Although, if someone got Rumsfeld drunk and packed him onto a plane bound for Germany, I'd laugh my ass off.

But nothing will happen. You saw what happened with Valerie Plame. Nobody got indicted for anything, except Libby for obstruction. And Cheney was furious that George wouldn't pardon him. I think someone promised something they couldn't deliver. Maybe Libby will write a book while he's cooling his heels in prison. (Or is he out already? Ought to be soon, anyways.)

[voxwoman.livejournal.com]

The wheels of government retribution grind slowly. This is what people don't seem to get.

Go look at the ITAR cases from the State Department (these are "selling military technology to foriegn governments" crimes) - it takes something like 10 years for them to bring a case to trial.

Let the government spend a couple of years getting the evidence they need and an ironclad case together. It's a lot of work, which equates to VERY EXPENSIVE. These lawyers don't work for free....